Wednesday, November 1, 2006
India and Web 2.0

iLeher's Madhur writes:


If you put the above pieces together in today’s situation, you have at least 20 players in a market of 8 million users, who are using Internet for less than 10 hours per week vying for a few million dollars of revenues? You can extrapolate the above numbers to 2010 and still the picture won’t look any prettier. I would love to hear any catches in the above analysis, but given this data I would not invest or start something that relies completely on ad for revenues from Indian markets, unless there is a killer app in mind that will acquire a really massive number of users quickly and probably get acquired by a big company. I think in India it still makes more sense to start web services with alternative sources of revenues - more like traditional ecommerce services . Not surprising that most of the VC money is going to such services. Of course there is need for sites where youth generation hangs out or where people share bookmarks or latest stories, but the market is small and it will be very interesting who emerges out as the winner. More interesting to see will be what innovations come out considering these facts about the Indian market, both in terms of type/quality of service and in terms of business models.

Emerging Markets | PermaLink | Comments (4)

I beg to differ. With more than 2 lakhs youngsters joining the IT sector every year and more and more college/school going kids willing to experiment on the net, Orkut and other networking sites are seeing a huge increase in traffic.
These people will slowly start buying/selling on the net. Since they form a highly vulnerable customer base, i feel it is upto the the Web 2 companies to devise a suitable bizness model.

I feel if the strategy is focussed enough and the companies know who and what they are selling, they would suceed.
One thing they should remember is they cannot be everything to everybody.

Regards,
Arun.

Posted by Arun PC

I agree with Madhur. There is this growing tendency among many new Indian sites to replicate the Web 1.0 mistake of going after 'eyeballs' that can be encashed through ads. I know of many sites that claim visitors in the 10,000-20,000 visitors per day. There isn't yet a significant enough base of viewers to achieve 'reach' to counter any other conventional media. Especially so, when it comes to established advertisers. And, the smaller ones do not contribute enough ad-rupees anyways.

The real opportunity(and a glaring one at that) is of the retail variety. There are so many categories whcih can well be serviced online - both to Indians and also to the Indian diaspora. Basically e-commerce enabled, retail ventures that generate real margins by selling real products - using the web as a convenient, hasslefree (and maybe cheaper due to reduced distribution costs) medium to enable purchase.

Posted by Santosh Pillai

Yes its true that online advertising in India isnt mature enough and its really not a good idea to build an internet business based around it. The current VC scenario proves that since most online companies getting funded either belong to travel, matrimonial, job etc all verticals where ad income is secondary.

Udit
Indimoto.com

Posted by Udit

I am following up this discussion with a series of interviews with some of the players in the Internet industry in India. It is interesting to see different strategies being adopted by them to overcome the problems in the Indian markets. These conversations will be posted in the next few posts.

-Madhur
http://ileher.com

Posted by Madhur Khandelwal
End-to-End Experiences

The Guardian writes: "In a marketplace that offers a bewildering array of hardware, software and services, the company that prioritises ease of use stands a chance of winning."


According to Ted Schadler, an industry analyst and vice-president of US-based Forrester Research, that's the new trend. "Consumers hate complex things," he says. "They want to be handed a working solution."

Last December, Forrester published a research note: "Sell digital experiences, not products." It points out that consumers buy products but often don't buy the content and accessories they need to get all the benefits. For example, half the US consumers with high-definition TV sets don't subscribe to HDTV programming. The conclusion: "Digital industries must stop selling standalone devices and start delivering digital experiences - products and services integrated end-to-end under the control of a single application."

Marketing Process

Seth Godin provides some ideas:


1. Don’t run out of money. It always takes longer and costs more than you expect to spread your idea. You can budget for it or you can fail.

2. You won’t get it right the first time. Your campaign will need to be reinvented, adjusted or scrapped. Count on it.

3. Convenient choices are not often the best choices. Just because an agency, an asset or a bizdev deal are easy to do doesn’t mean that they are your best choice.

4. Irrational, strongly held beliefs of close advisors should be ignored. It doesn’t matter if they don’t like your logo.

6. Focusing obsessively on one niche, one feature and one market is almost always a better idea than trying to satisfy everyone.

Management | PermaLink | Comments (1)

Don't you have a ' on your keyboard? you keep typing ? instead of '. It messes my reading experience of an otherwise a perfect writing!

Posted by Ganesh
Beyond Search

Dave Winer writes:


Many years ago, when the Internet was still the domain of geeks, researchers and college students, the smart folks often said that the opportunities for new software companies were over, it simply required too much scale to compete in an industry dominated by Lotus, Microsoft and Ashton-Tate. Now it's clear how ridiculous that was, even though it was correct. The next layer comes on not by building on the old layer (a trick, the guy you're building on will eat your lunch), or re-doing what they did (what the naysayers correctly say you can't do), but by starting from a different place and building something new, and so different that the old guys don't understand it and don't feel threatened by it.

At first, the Internet, the market dominated by Google, Yahoo, Microsoft and Amazon (and others) was about the web, a publishing environment, then it became two-way, and search developed as a core but adjunct feature, much as the OS of a personal computer is part of the package, but the spreadsheet, word processor and other productivity apps are really what it was about. There will be new technology enterprises that make the search engine as humdrum as the desktop OS is today. Bet on it and win. Think that all innovation must come in the form of applications of search and you'll be left in the dust.

MySpace to Facebook to

Washington Post writes:


Teen Web sensation MySpace became so big so fast, News Corp. spent $580 million last year to buy it. Then Google Inc. struck a $900 million deal, primarily to advertise with it. But now Jackie Birnbaum and her fellow English classmates at Falls Church High School say they're over MySpace.

"I think it's definitely going down -- a lot of my friends have deleted their MySpaces and are more into Facebook now," said Birnbaum, a junior who spends more time on her Facebook profile, where she messages and shares photos with other students in her network.
...
Such is the social life of teens on the Internet: Powerful but fickle. Within several months' time, a site can garner tens of millions of users who, just as quickly, might flock to the next place, making it hard for corporate America to make lasting investments in whatever's hot now.

Software | PermaLink | Comments (2)

Those guys should check out citypixel.com. It's like myspace with a GUI

Posted by Chris

Looks like SecondLife lite.

Raj

Posted by Rajesh Nidwannaya
TECH TALK: Good Books: The Go Point (Part 2)

Knowledge@Wharton interviewed Michael Useem, the author of “The Go Point.” Here are some excerpts:


We all make decisions all the time and most of them are highly personal -- [such as] what we put on this morning when we got up and got out of the house. A small subset of our decisions, though, has ramifications for people around us, and sometimes those are people we are responsible for. They work for us, we command them, and they may be in our community in some way.

There is a strain of thinking that is probably summed up with the psychologists' clinical term "decidophobia"; some people,[in considering] even what color clothing to put on in the morning, just simply balk at that decision. If it's highly personal, that's OK. The consequence is you don't get out of the house on time. But when it affects other people, you cannot suffer from that particular clinical syndrome, because you are going to ultimately cause others around you distress, maybe even harm.

Decision making and leadership can be difficult, but it can be learned. And I think the basic premise that underlies the book -- I think it just underlies reality -- is that decision making as a skill is learned really by making decisions. Critically though, [it means] looking back on those decisions, to make certain we don't make the same mistake twice, that you have some sense for what went right as well.

By way of example: I interviewed the chief executive of Lenovo -- which is of course China's big PC maker -- on this very topic for a couple of hours recently, and I put the question in summary this way (his name is Liu): "Mr. Liu, you came out of a state owned and operated research center. The government of China funded you, that was where your budget was from, but 22 years back you broke off with a couple of friends to create what is now the world's third-largest PC maker. How did you learn to make decisions along the way -- the decisions being how to market, how to brand, how to price, how to hire -- when you were doing none of those, making none of those decisions before?"

The answer really has stuck with me. At the end of every week, going back now more than 20 years, on Friday afternoon, he sits down with his direct reports, his top team, the five or six people he's closest to. They take time to review everything they've done that week -- what decisions were good, which ones were terrible. He has no MBA degree, no formal training in decision making, leadership, or management.

I say all that by way of coming back to the main point, which is decision making is a learned skill. You've got to make decisions and look back on them.
….
But in addition to that, becoming more self-conscious about getting the right data, having the right timing, talking to people who you know will not provide a biased read or filter through which they're going to pass their advice -- these are among what I would end up calling in the book the tools of leadership. So on the one hand, intuition is very important.

On the other hand, a set of tools is quite important also for helping all of us make good decisions. And just to come back to the main point: they're all learned.


The book can be especially good reading for entrepreneurs. I have faced (and continue to face) “go points” all the time. One has to make decisions and live with them. For an early-stage company, a single wrong decision can make things very difficult. Hopefully, Useem’s book will help us decide right.

Tomorrow: Winning Decisions

Related Entries:  [All]
TECH TALK: Good Books: Beautiful Evidence and More Than You Know [November 3, 2006]
TECH TALK: Good Books: Winning Decisions [November 2, 2006]
TECH TALK: Good Books: The Go Point [October 31, 2006]
TECH TALK: Good Books: In Spite of the Gods (Part 2) [October 30, 2006]
TECH TALK: Good Books: In Spite of the Gods [October 27, 2006]

Me
Entrepreneur, Mumbai, India, Emergic, Netcore, Internet, IndiaWorld, Sify, IIT-Bombay, ColumbiaUniv ... More [Write to Me]

- MyToday
- Emergic Ecosystem
- Netcore
- Emergic MailServ: Enterprise Messaging
- Emergic CleanMail: Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam
- BlogStreet: Blog Profiles, RSS Ecosystem
- Novatium: Network Computers
- SEraja: The EventWeb
- Rajshri Media: Broadband Portal
- Newsweek on Novatium (Feb 2007)
- Knowledge@Wharton Interview (Oct 2006)
- TIME Asia (Mar 2000)

Free SMS Updates
Indian mobile users can sms START EMERGIC to 9845398453 to get free daily updates on new additions. [To unsubscribe, sms STOP EMERGIC to 9845398453.]
My Writings
Affordable Computing and ICT for Development
India's Digital Infrastructure (May 2007)
Envisioning Tomorrow's World (Mar 2007)
Computing for the Next Billion (Jun 2006)
City Wi-Fi Networks (Apr 2006)
Microsoft Live (Nov 2005)
Internet Tea Leaves (Sep 2005)
Next-Generation Networks (Jul 2005)
Disruptions (Jul 2005)
The Mobile Phone Platform (Feb 2005)
Microsoft, Bandwidth and Centralised Computing (Jan 2005)
Computing for Broadband 101 (Jan 2005)
Tomorrow's World (Nov 2004)
CommPuting Grid (Nov 2004)
Massputers, Redux (Oct 2004)
The Network Computer (Oct 2004)
Reinventing Computing (Aug 2004)
Tech Trends (Jul 2004)
Letter to Arun Shourie (Apr 2004)
As India Develops (Mar 2004)
My Mental Model (Dec 2003)
The Next Billion (Sep 2003)
Transforming Rural India 2 (Jul 2003)
The Discovery of India (Jun 2003)
Transforming Rural India (Mar 2003)
The Rs 5,000 PC Ecosystem (Jan 2003)
Disruptive Bridges (Nov 2002)
India Post: Ideas for Tomorrow (Nov 2002)
Technology's Next Markets (Oct 2002)
Server-based Computing (Jul 2002)
India's Next Decade (Apr 2002)
The Digital Divide (Apr 2002)
The Real Wireless Revolution (Mar 2002)
Envisioning a New India (Jan 2002)
Emerging Technologies, Emerging Markets (Jan 2002)
The Indianised Linux Desktop (Nov 2001)
Mass Market Internet (Nov 2000)

Enterprise Software and SMEs
The Coming Age of ASPs (May 2005)
SMEs and Technology (Oct 2003)
The Death and Rebirth of Email (Aug 2003)
IT's Future (Aug 2003)
Rethinking the Desktop (Sep 2002)
Rethinking Enterprise Software (Jun 2002)
Emerging Enterprises and Emergent Networks (Mar 2002)
Web Services (Nov 2001)
Alt.Software (Oct 2001)
The Intelligent, Real-Time Enterprise (June 2001)
Enterprise Software (Mar 2001)
SME Tech Utility (Feb 2001)
Software and SMEs (Jan 2001)
The Intelligent Enterprise: Integrating CRM, SCM and EIP (Jan 2001)

Information Management
The Emerging Internet (May 2007)
The Now-New-Near Web (Sep 2006)
Mobile Internet (Aug 2006)
Video on the Internet (Jun 2006)
India Internet and Mobile (Feb 2006)
Rethinking Newspapers (Jan 2006)
Web 2.0 (Oct 2005)
The Future of Search (Mar 2005)
Web 2.0 Conference (Oct 2004)
Thinking A New Food Portal (Sep 2004)
Rethinking Search (Jan 2004)
India.com 2.0 (Jan 2004)
The Publish-Subscribe Web (Jun 2003)
Constructing the Memex (May 2003)
RSS, Blogs and Beyond (Feb 2003)
Blogging (Feb 2002)
Harnessing Information (Oct 2001)
News Refinery (May 2001)

Entrepreneurship
When Bad Things Happen (Jan 2007)
Ventures and Capital (Dec 2006)
15 Years as an Entrepreneur (Nov 2006)
Of Blue Oceans and Black Swans (May 2006)
Let's Build a Business (Apr 2006)
The Value of Vision (Mar 2006)
Vision and Worries (Oct 2005)
Bootstrapping a Business (Oct 2005)
India Needs More Entrepreneurs (Aug 2005)
Dotcom Nostalgia (Jun 2005)
When Things Go Wrong (Apr 2005)
My Life as an Entrepreneur (Nov 2004)
An Entrepreneur's Growth Challenge (Sep 2004)
Creating Options (Sep 2004)
From Employee to Entrepreneur (Aug 2004)
A Tale of Two Summers (Aug 2004)
Crucible Experiences (May 2004)
The Company (May 2004)
An Entrepreneur's Attributes (Nov 2003)
An Entrepreneur's Early Days (Sep 2003)
Reflections on Ideas and Entrepreneurship (Jul 2003)
Entrepreneur's Enigmas (Jan 2003)
The Entrepreneur's Delights (Sep 2002)
Life as an Entrepreneur (Oct 2001)
Leadership Lessons from Lagaan (Aug 2001)
Entrepreneurial Learnings (July 2001)
Entrepreneurship (Mar 2001)
The IndiaWorld Story (1997-8)

Abhishek (my son)
Photos
Letter to a Two-Year-Old (Apr 2007)
Father to Son (Apr 2006)
Letter to a 2005 Baby (Jun 2005)
The Making of Abhishek (Jul 2005)

Moreover
Facebook (May 2007)
Doing Education Right (May 2007)
Reflections from a Dubai Trip (Apr 2007)
Creating India's New Cities (Apr 2007)
India's Challenges (Mar 2007)
3GSM 2007 (Feb 2007)
Demo 2007 (Feb 2007)
A Tale of Two Covers (Feb 2007)
3GSM Mumbai (Feb 2007)
2007 Tech Trends (Jan 2007)
The Best of 2006 (Dec 2006)
Best of Tech Talk 2006 (Dec 2006)
Cyworld (Nov 2006)
Two 2.0 Events (Nov 2006)
Two-Sided Markets (Nov 2006)
The Rise of YouTube (Oct 2006)
Gandhigiri (Oct 2006)
Education and Reservation (May 2006)
Four Blog Years (May 2006)
Fooled by Randomness (May 2006)
Blue Ocean Strategy (May 2006)
Revolution on the Roads (Apr 2006)
The MySpace Story (Mar 2006)
A Presentation at PC Forum (Mar 2006)
Extreme Competition (Mar 2006)
3GSM World Congress 2006 (Feb 2006)
DEMO 2006 (Feb 2006)
India Rising (Jan 2006)
2006 Tech Trends (Jan 2006)
The Best of Tech Talk 2005 (Dec 2005)
The Best of 2005 (Dec 2005)
Trains, Planes and Mobiles (Dec 2005)
Peter Drucker: Management's Newton (Nov 2005)
India Empowered (Oct 2005)
Rajasthan Ruminations 2 (Sep 2005)
Building a Better India (Sep 2005)
South Korea's IT839 (Jul 2005)
Shift-Ctrl (Jul 2005)
Best of Future Tech (Feb 2005)
Multi-Model Minds (Feb 2005)
The Best of 2004 (Jan 2005)
On Watching Swades (Jan 2005)
The Best of Tech Talk 2004 (Dec 2004)
India Trends (Dec 2004)
An American Journey (Aug 2004)
Black Swans (Aug 2004)
A Train Journey (Jun 2004)
An Agenda for the Next Government (May 2004)
Two Blog Years (May 2004)
Rajasthan Ruminations (Feb 2004)
Technology and the Indian Elections (Feb 2004)
2003-04 (Dec 2003)
Random Musings (Sep 2003)
Useful Concepts (July 2003)
Dear Non-Resident Indian (July 2003)
Tech's 10X Tsunamis (July 2002)
An Indian in China (Mar 2002)
Disruptive Technologies (Aug 2001)
Innovation (Aug 2001)
Good Books

- My Business Standard columns
- More columns at Tech Samachar

Presentations
- TiE Bangalore (Dec 2004)
- BangaloreIT.com (Nov 2004)
- CIT 2004 (Jan 2004)
- BangaloreIT.com (Nov 2003)
- Pune CSI Open-Source Workshop (Sep 2003)
- Sydney ICT Workshop (Jul 2003)
- Netcore (Mar 2003)
- Emergent Democracy (MP Govt, Feb 2003)
- Vision for Digitally Bridged India (Dec 2002)
- India Post (Nov 2002)
- Open-Source for eGovernance (Oct 2002)
Recent Entries
Archives
BlogStreet
Syndicate
Powered by
Movable Type 2.21


Main - Feedback
© Rajesh Jain